ROAD TO GLORY RTG-01 · Underdog Run · Week 0

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What the rest of the league says

Collected from eight other programs in the Flint Metro League, August 2026. Booster pages, student sections, opposing staffs, and one anonymous app. None of these people is trying to be fair to him, and a surprising number of them are anyway.

Why this page exists. Everything else in Week 0 is Fenton talking about Fenton. This is the only surface where he is somebody else's problem. It is also the fastest way to find out what a person actually thinks of a player: ask the people preparing to face him.

Linden — the one that matters

Linden is four and a half miles down Silver Lake Road. The dislike is real, it predates everyone currently playing, and the parking lot fills an hour early. Fenton beat them 34–20 last October in the game Ryan Zuke charted, which is the only Fenton film any stranger has ever watched the whole way through.

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Linden Eagles Football — Fans, Families & Alumni
Private group · 1,847 members
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Dave Kroeger
August 22 · Fenton, MI
Everyone getting excited about this Fenton kid should go back and watch the second half of last year's game. We had him. Two more possessions and that's a different result. He's a good little player. He is not what the paper says he is.
👍 41💬 23↪ 2
Rhonda PyleAug 22
Dave he threw for 300 on us
Dave KroegerAug 22
Rhonda I'm aware of what he threw for. I was there.
Rhonda PyleAug 22
ok
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Greg Sedlar
August 24
Watched the Fenton-Goodrich film again last night with my son. I'll say the unpopular thing in here. The quarterback is the best football player in this league and it isn't close, and it has nothing to do with his arm. Watch what he does before the ball is snapped. He moves people. Our kids are still figuring out where to stand.

Downvote away.
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Dave KroegerAug 24
Greg you say this every year about somebody
Greg SedlarAug 24
I said it about Beckett Hoyle and Beckett Hoyle has five offers. Dave I would love to be wrong, we play them September 11.
Tina Marchetti-DoyleAug 24
My nephew is in band with him. He's a very sweet kid honestly
Dave KroegerAug 24
This is a football group
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Mark Sowinski
August 26
Genuine question and not a shot. If this kid is that good why has nobody offered him. I've been watching this league 30 years and that has never once been an accident.
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Greg SedlarAug 26
Because he's 155 pounds and nobody's ever timed him and he's never been to a camp. That's the whole answer. It isn't a football answer.
Mark SowinskiAug 26
That's not really an answer though is it
Greg SedlarAug 26
No. It isn't.

Linden head coach Bob Sheaffer, asked about Fenton in the Tri-County Times preview, gave four sentences and one of them was about the quarterback.

"They're a good football team. They were a good football team before last year and everybody forgot. We've got the same eight teams to play as everybody else." Then: "I'm not going to help sell anybody's quarterback in August. Ask me September 12."

Asked what he meant by that, Sheaffer said, "It means September 11 is a football game and I'd like to win it. It doesn't mean anything else. Write down that it doesn't mean anything else."

Goodrich — the measuring stick

Goodrich expects to win this league and usually does — eleven titles in sixteen years under Dan Prahl. Fenton goes there in Week 8. The two programs did not play last season, which is a scheduling accident rather than a statement, and which means Goodrich is the one opponent on this schedule with no first-hand read on Nick Mansour at all.

Prahl has already given the Fenton student paper the most quoted evaluation of the summer — the one about there being sixty good high school quarterbacks in Michigan every year and four scholarships. He was asked here about something narrower: not how good the kid is, but why nobody knows.

"There's no mechanism. That's the whole answer and nobody wants it because it's boring." He was asked to unpack it. "If you don't go to the June camps, and your league doesn't get scouted, and your head coach doesn't pick up a phone — and Jeff doesn't, Jeff has never called anybody about a kid in his life, that's not a shot, that's just Jeff — then you can throw for four thousand yards in this county and be exactly as findable as a rock."

Asked whether he calls people about his own players, Prahl said: "Every year. Eight, ten kids. Half of them nothing comes of it." A pause. "It costs me an afternoon. That's the part that gets me about this."

He was then asked, since Goodrich has not played Fenton and has no stake in the answer, to say plainly where Mansour ranks among the football minds in this league.

"First. Including the coaches." He did not qualify it and he did not take it back when it was read to him a second time. "I'm sixty-three years old and there is nothing anybody in this league can do to me."

Prahl asked that the last sentence be printed with the first one and not without it.

🦅Goodrich, MI· 6d
whole county losing their minds over a 155 lb band kid who has played 12 games and has never played US. week 8. our place. i'll wait 🕰️
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🐯6d
you ducked us. that's literally the schedule rotation but ok
▲ 588
🦅6d
nobody ducked anybody it's a 9 game schedule with 10 teams in the league
▲ 240
🐯6d
ok so you agree you haven't seen him
▲ 771
🦅6d
i've seen the linden film. everyone has seen the linden film. it's ONE game against a team that went 4-5
▲ 118
🧊5d
genuinely why is everyone in this county so mad about one small quarterback
▲ 96
🌾5d
because he's the only interesting thing that's happened here in ten years and half of you can't stand it
▲ 1.4k

This is the post the Fenton team chat spent an evening arguing about on August 18. Kevin Lack's position was that they do not play Goodrich for seven weeks and everyone should relax. He was outvoted by people who do not vote on things.

Clio — Friday

Week 1, at Fenton. Clio was 4–5 last season, is young, is faster than that record, and has hired a new defensive coordinator whose system nobody in this league has seen yet. They went from single-high roughly eighty percent of the time to a two-high shell, which is the single most relevant football fact in this entire media pack and appears nowhere else in it except a group chat at 10:47 on a Wednesday night.

Clio head coach Ray Vandenbrink: "We're not building a defense around one kid in week one. We're building a defense. If we start chasing a quarterback around we'll lose to their running back, and their running back is a problem nobody talks about."

That is a correct read on Shane Kolinski and is the only intelligent thing anyone has said about Shane Kolinski in this archive.

Clio defensive coordinator Marc Teague, hired this spring out of Chesaning, declined to discuss scheme. Asked only whether he had watched Fenton's film, he said: "I've watched all of it. Twice." Asked what he thought, he said, "I think I'd like to talk to you on Saturday."

ProgramWhenPublic posture on MansourWhat it actually is
ClioWeek 1 · homeRefuses to game-plan around one player, in public.Watched all of it twice
LindenWeek 3 · away"Ask me September 12." Boosters split down the middle.Rivalry, not evaluation
GoodrichWeek 8 · awayDan Prahl says on the record he is the best football mind in the league, coaches included. Has never played him.The real test
HollyWeek 4 · homeHomecoming opponent. Has said nothing about anyone.Silent
CorunnaWeek 5 · awayCoach's only comment was about tempo and clock, twice.Uninterested
Carman-AinsworthWeek 9 · homeNothing public. Most raw athleticism in the league.Unknown

The thing this page proves

Eight other programs in this league have now watched Nick Mansour's film, because they have to. A sixty-three-year-old head coach with eleven league titles and no stake in the answer will say into a recorder that the kid is the best football mind in this league, coaches included. A Linden booster with no reason on earth to be generous will post it to a private group of eighteen hundred people and take the downvotes.

Every single one of those people is inside Genesee County.

That is the whole shape of it. The evaluation is not missing. The evaluation exists, it is detailed, it is unanimous among the people qualified to make it, and it is trapped inside a forty-mile circle with no mechanism for getting out. Nobody has to be convinced. Somebody has to be told, and there is no one whose job that is.

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